Gaggia Accademia. Thanks. That would be easy enough to verify with a multimeter, to see which thermostat is active in steam mode and which one is active in brew mode. The steam mode drops to 102 before the power cycle kicks back in, with the valve open or closed. Im running into problems and I dont know if my REX-C100s starting values are the problem or if its my deviation with the wiring: Regardless of the temperature that i set on my PID, toggling the Gaggia on causes it to climb to 150-160C and then slowly decline to 118-125C, at which time it will heat up again. All of this really means that you should balance whatever temperature you end up reading against what youre tasting, because thats what matters in the end. () . The Rex c-100 reads in Celsius only, would I be able to substitute this kit with: Thus brewing circuit needs to be connected directly to the heating element, not over steaming circuit. It also means that you can only see the temperature and access the PID buttons from the top. In the text it says M4, but on the picture, it highlights to use the M3. Do you observe the same temperature ranges? Because the PID runs on mains voltages, an enclosure is required. Never used a K type so I cant say for sure. My only concern is the diagramm I downloaded from whole latte love shows different connections then what I have seen in my unit The A vs E should not make a difference as I am not using alarm function, and am using it with a 3-wire PT100. My next thought was that the controller wasnt reading the correct temperature. Always work with the Classic unplugged. if i understood not adding a steam will give better steam? I would not make it without you. What you describe is pretty normal, except that I am a bit surprised that your steam drops temperature down to 102. The same complexity applies to pressure control. Main Feature. Mains is house current. Hi Murat, But, I still get loads of steam and spray before it settles down. This is not a difficult mod. Somebody else (Andrue) had also pointed this error out. Shades. It is a really tight fit to get the REX C-100 PID inside the machine. This morning I pulled my first shot with the PID. If you have the regular version (RI9380 120V, or 240V), you DO NOT need this wire. Apologies for the long questions, thanks in advance! Ill dismantle on a cleaning weekend and test the thermocouple again. One bit of note and a request. $375.00. Is there a way to tap into +/- 12Volts inside the GCP? Thanks for your time. It has worked without issue so far, and maybe thats bound to happen to the plastic as current goes through and it gets old, but would love to hear other opinions. I can actually taste the sweetness for the first time. I cant see why you couldnt. Please see our Help Center's. Does anybody have a Shades of Coffee pdf for the brew and steam setup on the gaggia classic, mines a 1998 classic coffee model, it would be much appreciated. Hey. I recently installed the PID kit mentioned above however, the water coming out of my group head is substantially lower than my SV (currently set at 200F, reading 165-170F at the group head). Is it possible, despite setting the temperature to 102 degrees Celsius as SV, to actually run GCP much hotter due to incompatibility of the PID and RTD? on orders over $49. Ive tried connecting these in various combinations but the PV readout is 3 or 4. This is a PID controller for the Gaggia Classic by Auber Instruments.This PID controls water and steam temperature. Users needto disable the parameter Tp, Td, and only useTb as a shot timer to pump a specific time. Wear a glove when reaching in from below, otherwise bloodletting is likely. See our 325 reviews on. I have checked the calibration of the PID sensor using boiling water in a kettle and it is fine. There is no 12v anywhere in the GCP, its all mains power inside. Thanks. 2. Where did you place the SSR? Im on [emailprotected] Hey Chris, Autotuning had resulted in shot instability up to 10 degrees during a shot probably because conditions during standby and during brewing are very different than each other. Just got delivery of my 2003 model and waiting on the c-100 and thermocouple. PID KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro 2018+ & Classic & Home, Pre-infusion. Thanks, David. Thread in the M4 thermocouple adapter in the place of the thermostat. It is still showing the M4 screw as the Crossed out/wrong one, and can be a bit confusing. I hope thats ok. 2. It will improve the consistency of the brewing even if you didn't tamp the coffee perfectly. Have you written an article regarding installing a Gaggiuino mod? Pressure control could be super nice to have. This video clearly shows how to program in an offset on the Rex C-100: https://youtu.be/9aW8MfiKIPg?t=291. At a minimum, I think you would need the following: I dont see piggyback connectors on Mr Shades list, maybe those are part of the set of wires, but its not clear. The preinfusion thing is a bit ridiculous, it just turns your pump on, off and on again. Hi, I just completed the DIY kit last night using your guide and it all went perfectly! Also, the diagram of the controller lists SSR to connects to terminals 9 & 10. 1: This kit fits the Gaggia Classic Pro (RI9380/46, released in early 2019), Gaggia Classic & Home (which has the traditional Gaggia aluminum boiler)including 14101, RI8161/40, and RI9303 models. I think this would be the most important parameter of the build, obtaining the correct temp of the water. Does anyone else have this kit? This gives the machine a whole new level of consistency, and gives you fine control over brew temperature. Double check that this is the neutral! Thermocouple included: M6*1 thread , K type , 2m cable Users can also bypass the timer to use the switch on the machine for manually controlling the brewing process. Depending on the enclosure, you may need to insert the PID into the housing first. But just like the kit I ordered, the threads on the thermocouple M8 according to the specifications are too big for the Gaggia. Both shades and auber use the alarm 1 & 2 though with different PIDs for steam with upper limit & lower limit. I want to get a PID for my GC. Leave this cable longer than needed for now, it will be trimmed and terminated later. PID Control Kit for Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine, White LED $164.99. 4.8. SSR control ready to connect external Solid State Relay to handle High current. Hi Miguel. I know what I will be trying tomorrow , Hi, The PID I ordered came as a package with a solid state relay and a thermocouple, but that thermocouple had too big a diameter to with the Gaggia. My question is where did you place the SSR, is it near the water spout, right side or in the back if you are facing the front of the machine? The default target temperature on the PID will almost certainly not be correct. Hi Jeff. The machine and PID were working great, my brother gave me a quick rundown of the PID basics (how it displays the boiler temp, how it pre-infuses, and then times a 30 second shot pull). save. Even if that is the case, i dont have a clue as to why i would be in steam mode, since i didnt touch the steam mode button or its wires, i have already reverted my swap of the power switches wires (just from up to down on the same switch so that shouldnt have impacted anything) and ive validated that the rollback was correct with a multimeter. You need at least 20 amps. By doing this, the TC bead is pressed against the boiler housing at the point closest to the boiler water, and is assisted by the thermal transfer compound. Power input. I cant see how this wouldnt be a thermostat problem, unless you somehow wired the steam thermostat into the PID, but you would have gone way beyond this walkthrough to do that. Left or right side if facing the front of the machine? This PID controller kit has all the features of our other listing titled "PID temperature control kit for PID Retrofit KIT for Gaggia Classic & Home, KIT-GG", with the addition of pre-infusion and steam temperature control. Have you checked the temperature accuracy of your PID & Thermocouple? Thus, it will significantly improve the taste and consistency of your espresso. Circuit diagram of Gaggia Classic with the KIT-GG connection. Hi Murat. I adjusted the calibration offset on the PID +5.5 degrees to read 212 degrees.Have you any suggestions of more accurately calibrating the PID and TC? Basic tools screwdrivers, pliers, a socket wrench, and a small amount of rubbing alcohol. You would probably blow the fuse in this controller/SSR within seconds. Warranty: 6-month limited warranty with a 30-day money-back guarantee is offered. Im all for freedom of expression and creativity, but not when it might electrocute someone. You can get away with lighter gauge wire for the mains connection to the PID, as the PID draws very little current. Do you have any idea how to do? Posted by 2 years ago. See all. as a cheap indicator to assist with surfing. Brilliant article. Leave the Classic powered on for at least 15 minutes. This approach would make your machine a bit weird to someone who wasnt aware of what you did, as the brew function would be completely unusable without adjusting the temperature. Their kit is convenient, and is the way to go if someone doesnt feel ready to take on a 100% DIY project. (To be certain, the M4 is the correct one). If you have questions regarding ourcoffee kits, please check ourHelp Centerfirst. 2: The add-on item option "extra wire defeating auto-off timer" is for the Gaggia Classic Pro European model (RI9480, 240V), which has the auto-turn-off timer feature. Please contact us if any questions. Does this pid control both the group head water and steam wand? The Classics over-pressure valve (OPV) is set to 14 bars, which is a pressure better suited to the use of pressurized portafilters. Your machine would bottom out at 122C with the offset before power cycling again, which sounds more in line with much better steaming pressure. This wont be enough for the boiler heating element. I have a 2012 and am wondering if you had success and if the wires are as described in the article. You should see no or very low voltage between neutral and ground, and you should see household voltage between the hot/load and ground. That is indeed not normal. When the ">" key is pressed, the controller starts the brewing sequence automatically. Update:This kit is compatible with the latestGaggia Classic Pro (released in 2018/2019) models, including the regular model (RI9380, 120V or 240V) and the European model(RI9480, 240V). Sign up for emails. Im thinking Id like to start with just a temperature indicator, to assist with the surfing. Its not hard if you know what you are doing and there is at least one youtube vid showing how its done. Allow easy adjustment on the coffee water temperature. Hello, thanks for the nice and valuable text. Do I need to make any adjustments to your procedure to make the PID handle the steam only (not caring about the group head)? it appears i can configure the BERM REXC-100 like this as i entered the settings after i enabled alarm 1. auber uses 1 SSR & is simple. The only other thing I can think of is the relay. I found that carefully pushing the boiler up gives better access to the thermostat, either from above, or by reaching up from below. I have read reports of measurements of up to 8 degrees C lower at the portafilter. Would you be able to post starting values for the PID kit please? This is sold on amazon The best way to find is: 1-Connect one cable to the mains connector at the back where it is showing N sign meaning Neutral. Does the PID generate enough heat to melt the Lego bricks? Take your time, think it through, and be patient. the PWM needs a new wire to the where the pump wire was disconnected. It should be placed as close to the left-hand side of the Classic as possible. After all this, I found that with the PID setpoint set at 94C, the brew temperature would rise to 94.5 and fall to 92.5 minimum. I bought the PiD from Amazon referenced in a comment above and its working fine. Here are some pictures of the Lego enclosure: https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/owpfe7/i_made_a_lego_enclosure_for_rex_c100_pid/. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32975122837.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.11b02e0edh0ELd. 3 months later, Ive finally set up the PID and honestly, its a gamechanger! I am glad you got your setup working Murat. This product was added to our catalog on Friday 12 August, 2011. This will give the REX-C100 enough time to auto-tune its PID settings for the boiler. PID temperature control kit for Gaggia Classic Pro 2018+, Classic & Home. Also some pids come with a built in relay. But I wondered if anyone has had the same problem and already found the answer! And anything is going to be a huge improvement over the thermostat that the PID replaces. I have noticed after PID installation that upper cup holder tray is getting quite hot during 8-10 min warm-up, which was not the case when I was using the original GCP setup. The PID works after hooking everything up. It is suitable for Gaggia Classic or other machines with a silver finish. You should see a strange number when the PID first powers on, then after about 3-5 seconds it should switch to the temperature reading from the thermocouple. Thanks! 100% Upvoted. I am not sure exactly what you did when you moved the wires terminating on the bottom of the power switch. Like NEW Gaggia Classic Espresso w/ Grinder and Base - - 6758821731. You can only buy them as spare parts. Adding pre-infusion would require either a different and significantly more sophisticated PID, or integration with something like a microcontroller. Slip some heat shrink tubing over the thermocouple, and ideally dip the thermocouple tip in some thermal grease, then insert the thermocouple into the adapter. https://wiki.wholelattelove.com/File:GAGGIA_CLASSIC_2019_Wiring_Schematic.pdf Thanks for putting it together, this has helped me a lot in figuring out most of my doubts with a PID project for a Gaggia. Final note: before going down the PID route, the easiest modification to make, and the best starting point for Gaggia Classic modifications, is lowering the brew pressure. I started with 103, and bumped it up to 105. Basically, instead of running the pump for a few seconds and then shutting it off (which dumps your pressure courtesy of the solenoid valve) you open the steam valve about 1/4 to half way, hit the brew switch and then slowly close the steam valve (about 5 seconds or so). Previous topic - Next topic. New - Gaggia Classic Pro/2019 PID kit - 1/32DIN single display $135.30 SHIPPING: We load new stock of PIDs on a Sunday, and they sell out very quickly (often within a few hours). Did you make any changes to the setting of the PID? The PID unit did not turn on using the same terminal of your machine. Or buy a machine with a built-in PID. Its stimulated a lot of interesting discussion! I found this M8 female to M4 male reducer: https://www.ebay.com/itm/284317077676. Not sure why that was the case. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4243840. The C100 is probably made by dozens of different manufacturers. Monitor and display the boiler temperature precisely. Glad this writeup helped. If you had to recommend a single display PID, which one would you steer me to? (I believe it is currently on 5) Or shall I just keep it as it is, showing DC 100V when I turn the switch on? Heat the shrink tubing. You should be done! Note: I fully tested the PID, SSR and thermocouple on the workbench before final installation. Hi Chris, Ive followed these instructions exactly (thank you for your thoroughness) except for how the mains were tapped: I moved the two wires terminating on the bottom of the power switch to the top, and tapped them (as per another guide). Posted by 4 years ago. The same can be done with the REX C100 but you need one with all 8 screw terminals (the second SSR for steam uses the alarm function which needs terminals #6 and #7) and these two are missing on some REXs. Chris, do you recall what size flat head screw was used on the 3d printed box for the REX-100? I know wiring might be different colours but is everything in the same place? The enclosures purpose is first to protect you from the mains current, and second, to make it easier to attach the PID to the Gaggia. Maybe Im missing something? shades uses 2 connecting one ssr thru the other for steam. I hope it helps some EU folks not spending extra hours on debugging this minor EU-US model difference . Or do you think the same set will work with QB-T7100? With a PID controller added to the heater control circuit, brew water temperature can be controlled to within 1 accuracy. Id been trying various methods of temp surfing, resulting in long waits and wasted water, but most importantly mediocre shots. It doesnt matter which mains terminal is connected to hot and which one is connected to neutral. Disconnect the two connectors from the brew thermostat, which is located on the bottom left-hand side of the boiler as you face the machine. When I started steaming at that point thermostat never shut down the boiler because temperature did not reach to limit of thermostat. Thanks a lot for the answer. If you can share a picture of it, or a link, I can add it to the article. And this is the thermometer out the back. Hi Jeff. Contrary to the Gaggia circuit diagram, Black is live, White is neutral, a minor issue. Which Auber PID for Gaggia Classic? When the pump runs, it vibrates the chassis and it will be a matter of time before it cuts through the wiring insulation. The kit installation is fully reversible. Wire colors and positions seem to vary. Shades. You want to connect the PIDs mains power terminal to the side of the Gaggia power switch that cuts out power when the machine is off. Pull the cover assembly off by pulling upwards, and disconnect the ground cables. Then use the left/right buttons to select the digits to increase and decrease, and the up/down buttons to change the digits. I placed the SSR toward the left side of the back panel if facing the front of the machine. This is the only concern left for me. But it will require some dismantling of the work you have done. Hi Chris, I completed the whole project both for brewing for PID and steaming via alarm. Brass is soft and easy to drill, and all the adapter needs to do is provide a connection between the thermocouple and the boiler, so there would be no hard in doing this. Its no secret that the chassis of the Classic has extremely sharp edges. I did that exercise before installing the PID, behavior should be identical as that time. Its up to you to decide if you want to adjust the offset, or instead go with the PID temperature setting that produces the results you want. I have changed the default value of the SL parameter to work with the RTD sensor (K thermocouple was default). Hi Chris, I am gathering / ordering the parts specified and was surprised to find out the price for 3d printing price spiked. The thermocouple that I ordered fit into the threaded adapter without any modifications. Only needs 2 x AAA batteries. Due to your kind and quick advice, I could order SSR40DA. Thanks Alex! This guide explains this well, and also explains what to do if your home wiring is not correct: https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/195229/in-a-light-switch-how-can-i-tell-if-the-black-wire-is-really-hot-and-the-white. Hi Andrue. It is the perfect place. Its actually reading too high.. 98 deg against 92deg measured by both my oven thermometers. Top Rated Seller Auber Instruments is one of eBay's most reputable sellers. Submit a Request Call Us at (888)-389-4123. One end of the wire should be a male disconnect connector, and the other end should be a spade connector. Did you have any problems or stumbled upon anything unexpected? The little red collar shows the location. I managed the brew side PID and digging in for the steaming side, using PID alarm function of my XMT 7100 unit. It would be great to see how the machine is behaving without the PID, to get a baseline. All other variables aside, once you get a temperature that gives you the results you want, you will be able to get those results again, and again. For the Gaggia Classic, taking into account the temperature drop between the boiler and the group head (5-8 degrees C), the PID target temperature should be set to about 103 degrees C or 220 degrees F at sea level. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. Any ideas? 100% Positive Feedback. Just leave the SSR disconnected, or dont install it at all. Range: -1999 to 9999 (depends on the input signal) Watching the steam temp with the PID is interesting (I know it has no effect on it, but it is cool to see how it reacts now) and it is definitely best practice to steam while its on its way up in temp, once it hits the set point it comes down for a while (mine settled around 130 before it started back up). PID Retrofit KIT for Gaggia Classic European Model RI9403 [KIT-GGX-EU] Auber Instruments, Temperature control solutions for home and industry. Im sorry about that, Eric. I have to turn the set point on the PID down to about 85C to stop it boiling and getting steam and a great deal of sputter out of the portafilter. Maybe this will help? 3: For owners of the Gaggia Classic ProRI9380 240Vversion, please check the installation guide "KIT-GG_Classic Pro US 120V_Installation". Hard to say how long it took because I was doing other things as well (dimmer switch, boiler pressure gauge, boiler rebuild, etc.) This kit doesn't control the steam temperature nor has the pre-infusion function. Everything else (Auber and Mr Shades) includes an M4 thread on their pt100. As in, temperature was set, changed, maintained for pulling shots, as well as steam. You need a 85-250V DC model, as the power will be coming from the Classic, which is mains-level voltage. I am only using the Rex temporarily while working on a project with a Raspberry Pi (and the cost of the Rex was only a couple dollars when ordering the SSR), otherwise I would reprint the entire enclosure with the hooks built in. QB-T7100 48*24mm Programmable Digital PID Temperature Controller AC/DC 85-250V No extra button is needed to press for frothing. http://facebook.com/HKCoffeeHome EspressoGaggia Classic !Gaggia Classic can give a good espresso shot . With a SV of 103C (not offset), during initial overshoot the heater would sometimes be one when it was at 104-105C with the temperature rising as high as 108. The lack of consistency pre-PID is frustrating, because you can get everything else right and still be at the mercy of the temperature determined by the thermostat cycle. Which Auber PID for Gaggia Classic? Instruction Manual for PID controller kit - Picr. Im in North America btw. ), Basicknowledge of electronics wiring and safety. Hi Gene. There is definitely something weird going on. The PID switches the power to the boiler heating element on and off a lot more frequently than the original mechanical thermostat. A Gaggia Classic Pro installed with KIT-GGP. 102 is even 3 degrees below my brew temperature. I bought the same parts as you have reccomended in the article but have run into the issue that the thermocouple is too large to fit into the adapter (theyre approx the same OD). Its crazy. Thanks in advance. For RI9403, please check KIT-GGX-EU. Trim, terminate and connect the wires you routed out the back of the Classic to the PID. You said here that the to get an M3 thread for the boiler. I installed the PID so that there are no permanent modifications to the machine, and the Gaggia can be returned to factory condition at any time. Same with the adapter screw. Its threaded on, and should not be very tight. 6 Reviews (6) $375.00. My experience, and that of others including a commenter on this article, is that I would not want to go lower than 103 on the Gaggia Classic. However I now need to connect steaming and brewing circuits in parallel rather than serial because steaming circuit will not be closed unless I turn on steaming switch and supply power to steaming SSR. I strongly suggest checking which switch terminal switches the mains. Inside the GC, all bets are off as to wire colors, aside from green for ground, and even then, I wouldnt assume anything. I think one of either is the one which Shades of Coffee is using. Tap the switched hot/load mains power: disconnect the lower left-hand (if facing the front of the machine) wire from the power switch. So you could measure water temp at the group head at 180 deg F with the PID set to 204 deg F. There is some interesting information here: https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/53319-what-temp-offset-are-you-using-with-your-pid/. The most I can say is these work for me, and are probably not optimum. Maybe then try QB-T7100 afterwards and if it works I will buy the external case which is sold seperately (QB looks nicer with small size and external case). These connectors are hard to reach, and are on very tight. Hi Chris, Thanks. Users can see the boiler temperature on the PID controller directly and also easily adjust the brew water temperature to suit their own tastes. Many thanks for such a comprehensive write up of your project. In mine, correct terminal was crosswise of yours. When I got my C100 the thermocouple was M6, i ended up buying an m4 brass bolt drilling it out, and inserting the thermo with some glue and heatshrink on it and it works like magic added some thermal paste. -. (Gaggia Classic) I swear this is the last question I will ask today lol. Obviously the actual water temp will be different, but I can use this range to try and get a consistent temp when I pull a shot. Your Gaggia would be in steam mode by default, you would never have to switch on steam mode. We ship every business day from our two warehouses located in Milton, Ontario and . If you purchased the kit from our website, you can download the manual zip file from our website by one of the following methods: Note: Feedback is that there are almost no two GCs with identical wiring, even units destined for the same power rating. Run two 12 volt wires from the + and terminals of the solid state relay and out the back of the Classic, again using the same slot. I should pointed out that the temperature ranges I was referring to were with the -8C offset on the PID. If youre following a recipe that calls for a specific water temperature, then it would be easier to do this with an offset at the PID. I print with PLA filament, which has a much lower melting temperature than the plastic that Lego uses. It will depend on the beans you use, and your palate. Maybe this could serve instead of trying to find an M4 thermocouple. Do the same with the other connector wire. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. hide. Hi Jimmy. Auber Instruments. https://photos.app.goo.gl/8yPwJcEPDi1c5tfY7 From what you describe, it looks the power wires for your PID are possibly tapped in-line with the boiler power? Hi Jun, and thanks for the update. To set the target temperature, press the 'Set' button on the front of the panel. Ive noticed that the PIDs output1 LED isnt illuminated after it climbs above my set temperature (103) but the boiler is getting heated up regardless. I start to run the steam at about 130 in the heating cycle on my setup. Hi Brian. Before replacing the thermostat, maybe check whether your PID and thermocouple are calibrated, before committing to buying more parts. Hi Justin. You wont need the heat sink, the GCs case does that job for you. Thanks in advance for any reply! Black case : Currently out of stock! I have to mention that coffee taste is good, not harsh or bitter. The LED on the SSR is functioning but no current can be seen. MY GC does the same thing, the pump tone changes when the boiler is heating. Locked Topic . Im tempted to return the GC because I never used it prior to the mod and it may have been a pre-existing issue. Did you have to alter your thermocouple at all to get it to fit into the adapter, like removing the cap on the end or something? That is confusing. For the European version of Gaggia Classic 2015 (RI9403, 240V) please checkKIT-GGX-EU. It was impossible to see without getting down into the wire harness. Do you know how to do this? Using pliers to pull the connectors can pinch them on even more tightly, making them extremely difficult to remove. Might be easier for most folks to buy an M4 screw, type K, thermocouple direct vs trying to get the probe version then another adapter. One thing I would really recommend when anyone installs a PID system into the Gaggia Classic is to install a rubber grommet where the cables exit the machine. Connect one meter probe to ground (the GC chassis should always be grounded, otherwise connect to the green wire coming from the power socket at the back). Hi Chris or anyone who may know the answer! I am now waiting for my PID unit and thermocouple with M4 head to arrive this week. Since I cant control that, if you want to use it, you will have to parse the data: each line, after the headings, should start with the PID parameter (P, I, D) followed by the reaction of the controller. Variants Coffee Only + Installation - No Coffee Only + Installation - Yes Coffee, Steam & Pre-infusion + Installation - No Coffee, Steam & Pre-infusion + Installation - Yes Quantity Free Shipping Parts Thanks in advance! 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