So to all of you who are struggling, there is hope, there is a way out of the dark, over time you begin to love yourself more and you will see the light. I was always the one who would make first contact. Like its been said before in cases like mine, wouldnt of stayed this long if it had been overtly abusive but there was a fair amount of good and before my discovery he could fool me with his emotions which seemed real. This will have to suffice. Wow thank you this is was my life of the last six years hitting g ever nerve then when I got to the letter It click this was my relationship God bless anyone who is dating these gross humans. Where you can .. on. My question would then be will I have to spend the rest of my life worried that hes just curious about me and so will feel entitled to stalk me online (i.e. So instead of cutting ties completely, you wonder whether you can be friends with your ex. To do this, a Non must reach the absolute edge of sanity; the point where its either you or them where you turn away, or fall off the cliff. That would suck. Interesting!!! Suddenly a new supply I was thrown to the wolves. Two hours later, he texts back Happy Birthday, wish u many more. You wont hear anything else after that, the narcissist will leave you to think about it for a couple of weeks, then call you back demanding that you remain friends. I cant imagine living an entire life with no escape or if I tried being brought to submission or outcast from family and friends. He claims he never encouraged her but IMO he didnt do enuff to discourage her either. I need it. He only told vicious lies about me and blamed me for his infidelity and drug use because I didnt or couldnt make him happy enough. Sorry if my sentences are all over the place but I tried to hurry. If you left because you could no longer handle the cycle of abuse, they only treated you that way because your actions forced them to. Say to him to stay away for ever and nothing to do with him anymore. There were times when I was a bit grouchy to talk to her, or just wasnt always enamored with her. He is just an empty shell. Reading Suggestion: How to make a Narcissist Obsessed With You? []. n.b. LMAO. Thank you for your supportive kind words. Im asking because I exposed mine and he has been silent for about 2 years. As well, I needed money and my ex boyfriend asked his friend to sell My old car 7 weeks ago but nothing is happeningand I have not seen my car back nor moneywhat are my options? One man got more then the RO, btw also for her sleeping with their (his and hers) boss. I love myself through you. Loving and wishing for something that did not exist. -Seemingly secretive behavior The first 2 months were hell and I don t think he will fully leave my life.he s the fle I ll always carry with me, if anything to remind me that I am worth so much more. I still feel so in love with my Narc ex and I dont know how to get rid of that feeling!! And repeat what you have already said if you feel you have to reply. Glad to know Ive helped in some small way, Stephanie. He said that i have to give him some time. I am simply bringing awareness to the masses that women can be just as cruel, and in SOME cases (not all by any means, but some) can even be harder to get over. He sounds like he could be a Narc however, now that Ive been in a relationship with one, I sometimes feel a little paranoid when I meet a new guy. I am sane enough to get away from him and no longer put up with his narcissistic, messed up personality. He talked and messaged 3 girls from his job continuously in the consecutive years. its like hes two ppl. Yours might just slither away to the next supply. Theyll see you living the good life, going on vacations, eating out at exclusive restaurants, and spending time with your new boo. Or if he apologizes he expects everything to immediately go back to normal. When would be a good time to come by to get the cable box and belongings? Like were best friends and no time is a good time in my book. I dont want to be back in a relationship with him. You are doing great service work in this area and you should be proud of how many people you help and inspire every day. I have experienced this for seven years and I truly understand. Lol I can talk occasionally with him now because I accept he is a Narc. It is sad because you love her unconditionally. He was an attentive, passionate lover. Dont beat yourself up for breaking it the first time. He helpt me get some furniture i bought, and with putting a closed together. I do can imagian how it feels to be humuliated like that and rip your heart out and step on it. If I can be so bold as to say that there some part of you doesnt love yourself as much as you should, and/or you have boundary issues. They mirror us & so We all basically fell in Love with Ourselves !!.. Even if he sincerely wanted to he would have alot of work to do amd he could t be in a relationship whole he worked thru his issues. It also made me less valuable to her, I guess. I broke up with him and cut off contact, but got back in touch with him I said it was to see if we could be friends but really it was because not talking to him was absolutely agonising. He knows Im having a baby and that Im vulnerable yet he has no problem disappearing. Im here to tell you the one wayhow to know if a narcissist is finished with you. and they know exactly what they are doing they know right from wrong, good from bad . And now travel back in time almost 17 years Wed known each other three years, but had only been dating for six weeks at this point, as he first had a string of others he labeled everything from bipolar nymphomaniacs to bisexual stalkers. So whatever it is, it is an Extremly Powerful Drug that they silently inject & Seduce us all with, A Truly Awful, EVIL Experience When I say Im in love with you, I love not being alone. Get your ex back with Coach Lee's Emergency Breakup . NO ONE he knows has seen me, I dont go places I know he goes to, I avoid certain roads at certain times of the day, etc. He sat there for a minute in the truck as I slowly strolled back up to my door. Having trust issues, no friends. Get out while youre still sane. That's exactly what my histrionic disordered ex said to me. I dont doubt it was a sad day or that he even missed me a little..but I also know that he probably PLANNED to msg me on that day to illicit the sympathy from me. The male I spent 7-1/2 years with is obsessed with his ex-girlfriend and her brother-in-law and has been for nearly 25 years. I can tolerate that but not abuse. I have been so confused by the 180 mine did going from you can come back any time despite being emotionally abusive every other interaction, to now acting like I have been so horrible to him he cant stand to be in a room with me even for our kids teacher conferences or IEP meetings. Also, my ex rarely put me down as well, and quite often spoke highly of me both to my face and to others (from what I gather). The judge issued a no-contact order but he has been calling/texting my friend where I am staying, making demands or he is going to tell the state attorney this, that or the other. this man was my world, my everything and I did absolutely everything for him. He is sick and will not stop I do not know how to stay away when my daughters and yes me would do anything for him to change. The mind fuckery The future faking The list is endless. There is much turbulence in my life now because of this. This whole crap about us teaching others how to treat us is bogus and only applies to people who dont carry around a moral compass of their own. Your N will always be an empty soul. Im in a great relationship. Much appreciated. He denied it for 9 months trying to convince me I was crazy. I feel blessed that i came across your blog along with one other, there is so much false information out there, unfortunately some Narcissistic Abuse forums become the Narcissist,s playground set up to hunt for their next pound of flesh. Every single action employed by the narcissist stems from a pathological need to control others. It lasted a week and I kicked him out. She would constantly leave me, make me beg, then come back promising me the world and how I was the love of her life she wanted to get married, have babies etc. My ex narc recently started calling and texting after 9 months of silence. Even if you are bisexual and had a relationship with both a male and a female narc and that is why you feel you can compare the damage the woman did to you as worse than what the man did to you, it still doesnt seem fair to say that all women narcs are worse than male narcs and therefore men suffer more damage than woman. Theyre the ones who do the dumping. They don't like change, least of all change instigated by someone else. Just stay away and let the new supply figure it out for herself. Whenever her brother-in-law or sister comes into town, he uses his sister to get invitations to dinner (or invites himself) or drives past her nephews house to see if the brother-in-laws truck is in front of the house. theses narcissists are like time bomb he got your pity when the relative passed away. And that i better look for an other man because he cant make me happy. As you can imagine, narcissistic jealousy leans more towards the negative side of things. If I didnt still have all his e-mails proving what I am saying then I would end up believing his bullshit and lies. Leave them and never ever go back. He is always busy and when he is at a quitte time he feels the love sometimes. I also recognize the peace I feel would not be if we were anything more than what we are. everybody knows, its a psychopathic cluster,all listed disorders include the NPD and all are Antisocial. Do not follow your heart anymore when it comes to him. But he has taught me the game so now I am always one step ahead of him. If the narcissist keeps coming back . Only now accepting that I was one of them too. After first break up there was No Contact for a year and a half and when I finally forgot all of the things that occurred and I was quickly back in a whirlwind romance; only to move back into the list above. They broke up a week before the contact but he was still pretending they were together, sick really!! Learn a new skill but unlike nightmares this one you cant wake from !!.. Often my thoughts and actions at home and work do not make sense now; and some are illegal, unethical, and stupid. He and I use to go to that park and made love to each other. After crying, talking, and crying a lot more, he left, and I closed the door behind him. That person we all fell so in Love with doesnt exist Cry it out, talk to friends and family, write it down, cry some more, talk to a therapist, read all about it, share your story..and day by day, piece by piece put yourself back together. I hope you will take the time to read other womens experiences. The ex-wife and her husband didnt want to have any relationship with him. I can switch off. and maybe he does in HIS way but why wont he let go. Firstly above all. I exhibited classic behaviour traits of the disorder, such as high ergo, irrational thoughts, anger at some issues, believing I was competitive while it relay was insecurity, believing that I was correct which was wrong c, poor listening skills, went from one unfinished project to another, disregard for some of the rules, poorly designed projects, stealing even if I did not want the object, was a hoarder, addictions to food and went from one research group to another when a project needed skills (opportunity to myself). When you click on SEND.. its sooo sad feeling. But yet i do. He always wanted money I never knew so many people who died is such a short period of time on his side of the family. Walkern Windows and Homes / Blog / General / when the narcissist stops contacting you I thought it was good to have him as a friend because i have no friends here. Like he was punishing me KNOWING I didnt feel loved without physical expression on a regular basis. When meeting a new prospect, Id suggest the three strikes rule. Theyre the type the narcissist can control. I hope you are doing well and one day I can truly go no contact. Now I know he was never really sorry. You can only control yourself. Nign mounths for you is very long time. She may see the resemblance and clue in. That person i first met disappeared after a month or two and thats what kept me trying so hard to make it work. The person Im with is a narcissist when I dont do one little thing its all over he says hes moving out hes told me he was going to leave like 20 times but doesnt go anywhere hes 50 Im 39 . The only value this guy must have is that he hasnt called her out yet and she is manipulating him more than she was able to manipulate you! -Highly romantic in words; cannot walk the talk Years in the making, this book creates a bridge between the. Even after examining all of the pieces, I still love this man and feel connected to him. Protect yourself and your children but be very wise about it. The fact that she told me what a nice guy this person is makes me wonder why he has not been used up as well. Myself When i look back and know all this now, i can say that i am recovering as we speak from the 3th N relationship. And ONLY in the beginning. Im done with her now. Granted, we spoke on the phone all the time, but you see what I am getting at. And in my mind it feels like if he walks behind me or is somewhere els in the shop. The cycle of emotional and verbal abuse, the vicious cycle of discard and demeaning of people is atrocious. I know for a fact that my ex dated a narc for three years and also has a child with him, and I truly believe that the pain he caused her affected her so bad psychologically that she has taken it out on the men that have come after him. And a view days later he says it dont feel good you go look for an other man. I know its an addiction rather than love. SIGN UP FOR MY HEALING PROGRAM AT A JUICY DISCOUNT:https://bit.ly/NEWLIFE30Article: Do You Sabotage Yourself With The Grey Rock Method? It was sad but in a different way. Apologies, bit late. He moved right into her place. We had so many plans holidays etc. Never thought Id walk from her, she was so different . The narcissist knows this and will play on the weakness of their ex. With every transaction, theyll claim they only want to see you happy. I also ensured there my ex-narcissist would ever contact me again when I removed his mask and caused a major narcissistic injury. Friend tells me there was a few of ex narcs buddies that saw him with my car; in fact, friend knows some of the same people but ex didnt know this was my friend. Go figure. 10. They always have to keep that web in the background intact, and youre a part of it now. I dont like to argue and I like to work things out rationally. I keep going back and forth and only keep hurting myself over and over. Are You Not Losing Sleep Wondering Why He Does What He Does? A few days after the restraining order hearing, I have my court date for the battery charge, which I am hoping will be dismissed due to the fact that I have pictures of abuse from last year. I am the ho, bitchI am not getting any help and find it very hard to ask for help. The first time we have no contact for such a long time. Grow stronger and confident. No do not accept him back. Gotta be honest, sounds like the same line of bologna that Narcs learn in their secret society. I recently divorced one after 20 years (I met him when I was 13 and divorced after ten years of marriage) and getting into another relationship that was the same..only Im 30 weeks pregnant. He is not going to leave but when you do change phone number put him on email contact only if you must learn about No Contact and Run!!!!!! Good riddance. a narcissist. As I left, here she comes in her truck with her 5 dogs and her mother? You suffer from PTSD/C-PTSD, Trauma Bonding, Stockholm syndrome, crippling self-esteem, and depression. Every time he comes back he says how sorry he is, how awful and miserable his life is without me, how he has no direction and no reason to live. Its a process but eventually u will get there. Do you think a hoover will come soon or is this the final discard? Basically, If you don't like the way things are or who he is, then leave. But he finds out soon. He is now living in a caravan park with her and her daughter. [Read: The Real Narcissistic Abuse Cycle: Why You Cant Go No Contact]. I just started reading an article one day about Narcissism and felt like I was reading my life. I did not even ask her about the money. He hasnt done anything horrible to her yet that I know of, but she doesnt seem as happy as she did at first nor does she have that glow that people who are in love usually have especially in the beginning of a new relationship. I get it. They are Masters at the art of manipulation. He owns nothing in the world and has enormous debt. I thought I lost a gold ring until seven months after discovering in a shop display for sale. This guy dont know him Sees only the glamour side of him and feels flatterd. It's part of a healthy ego. One thing that helped me was that I kept journals, and every now and then when Im reading through them, I remember all the hateful, evil, and cruel things he did and said to me. She is so orientated by money. The disappearing act commences. My prayer is for continued healing for both of us. I never free up. 2. He said no I came to kill you, I was like what? Try meditation if you can. The solicitor states the deed is in force and to get my house back I must pay her close to 65,000. Then proceeds to tell me his ideas to address the problem. It is a battle on both ends. Some days i feel better and laughing again. He saw my strong, independent nature as a threat..that I would leave him. It has been 3 weeks now of No Contact and on a weekly basis the phone rings and a text is sent trying to make a connection to me. But hes become a different person now that I know about his affair. We dont use the Narc word but let her know that she is blameless and that it is ALL him. Yes, Kim is right, the label doesnt matter, but the healing is important. I am totally spinning, dont know which way is up, I find it difficult to make decissions & I feel completely Lost without him !!. You wont change her, so keep the peace, but continue No Contact is my best advice. Ex left me, remember? I thought the same about my ex. Good Luck. I just want my old life back, my confidence, my goals, my dreams. She often told me what a wonderful human being I am, and yet, now I am nothing to her. That was almost two years ago, and we never saw each other, spoke, or texted again. Four years of emotional, verbal, mental and psychological abuse. Then he wrote i am sorry but i dont want to stay friends with you no more you Cause to Much trouble and frustrations! Just like in your situation, I was blamed everything she did to me. This lady told me that this person who was a past love (its him by all descriptions), although it may seem that his circumstance has changed externally, internally, emotionally and mentally, nothing has changed. Typically, people who seek professional help do so because they have a level of self-awareness thats given them insight into their mental and emotional state. But.. after three days of loving promisses and announcements,` I do antything what i can to make this relation better bla bla, i never want to lose you, you are the best in my live. He is now with that other person. I new no one in dayton new to the area married for twenty eight years grievieng hard . Im sure he only said it was a joke because he was trying to save his ego. (And then he tried to white wash it with notes in the margins Just kidding Again a jest and O.K. Remember in my mind, I was conducting appropriate research and providing a home for family; not inappropriate actions and thoughts. Which is dumb, but I still find myself wondering. First, I care about her, theyre going trough the honeymoon stage and hes still being secretive. Contrast with a recent email message I received when he found out the kids were asking me again about his behavior this summer under the influence of alcohol and prescription meds: As for your conversations with the kids, try your hardest to be an adult. There needs to be repercussions. A few months later the bosses ex wife called me and told me the affair had started while we were still living together. One way to spot a guy who is breadcrumbing? We victims should stick together and not pit males against females. The first is if the other person left. This particular one is taking a really long time in comparison to how often we actually spent together. Either way, you might want to try some of the healing tools here on the site, and check out the suggestions in my recent article, http://letmereach.com/2014/10/06/why-do-i-feel-so-attached-to-my-narcissistic-ex/. They are scorpions. 4. Ive done tons of research and believe him to be a Covert Narcissist, which is a little more complicated, because he believes his own hype. It was a problem when I found out that he and his friends have been flirting at work and outside work until the girl slowly detached from him as she fell in love with him. Thats normal. YOUR ABUSIVE. My ex did the same. However, he is trying hoovering to get me back. Later I learned he was an x-con by doing research. She is so ill I wish I could help her. I didnt go for very long because I couldnt afford the expense but it was helpful. Were both the same age. Most of his are either a request unrelated to parenting (which I ignore) or replies to me with another question [is that all you wanted?, are you saying that ()?] when I expected a yes or no and he hates that I dont reply. My ex treated me like a queen when he wasnt being a crazy maker but I knew something was terribly wrong. Thats the weakness of women who loves so much. In fact the fusion/input of all other schools is extremely valid. Im so sorry to say this to u because I know how u feel. My ex narc left a year ago; we have a teenage daughter. I met this wonderful woman who rocked my world we we both 29. Im sorry this happened to you/us. That school behavioral approach has accumulated a vast evidence, in order to claim once you approach them as neurotics (digging their uncons/subcon) you are done, done! While I have engaged with him a few times on social media in the last year since that happened, he hasnt made any serious attempt to get back together with me, although hes alluded to being friends. Vincent Cassel: 'Every time a man does something wrong now, he's a pervert manipulator narcissist' The French star of 'La Haine' and 'Irrversible' speaks to James Mottram about . I didnt until I met mine. I was scared, i became sick, lost a lot of my hair and quickly fell away from all social contact with anyone. ITS A LOT! 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